Tuesday, 3 June 2008

Wasted time.

It is, first and foremost, my own time I'm referring to in the title. Apparently someone wishes to distract me from more pressing matters, like university, to play futile games with me. However, given that I've just had a long and tiring day and that I do not intend to study any further today, I've decided I'm going to indulge said person.

Almost two months ago I received an e-mail which, shortly after, I decided to post here on my blog. It puzzled me, I must say, but I still decided to give it a try because I reckoned that someone might be interested. I'm not going to describe it here, suffice to say that if you wish to read it - and if you wish to have an idea of what this post is going to be about - you should click here.

Now, after nearly two months, I had totally forgotten about it. Today, though, after my German translation exam I go and check my mailbox, and what do I find? A somewhat ranting message apparently written by the very author of the book advertised in the first e-mail. Anyway, I'm going to post it here - as I've been dared to do by the very author - and address all the points made, simply because I'm nice like that and have nothing better to do tonight. No, that's a lie, I could be playing Neverwinter Nights for the umpteenth time, but still...Here it goes:
Dear Fabio,

I should thank you for publishing our press release emailed to you by the volunteers of my media team. It is also the same guys who had just recently trawled across your site again, bringing your online commentary to my attention.
You're most welcome. Greetings from Italy to whoever your guys might be.
I usually do not get involved with responses published online by those who receive our press release. Especially from those who don’t bother to take our press release seriously.
A pity you decided to break with such a pleasant (for the rest of the world) tradition. You had started well, you should definitely thank me. Be grateful that I took your "press release" seriously enough to bother giving it some space here on my blog. There are things in interpersonal relationships that usually do not need to be made explicit, but it's quite obvious that I took far too much for granted in this case, so read carefully: I don't owe you anything.
After all, why should I be concerned for all those who delude themselves in pretending that they are so knowledgeable, so as to call themselves atheists – as you do – without having any inkling why gods do not physically exists?
Now it is you who's taking too much for granted, but I get the feeling your ego might be too large to allow you to even consider the option. However, as I already said, I owe you nothing. That means that I don't even need to prove to you that I'm a real atheist, whatever that might mean. If you wish to assume that my rejection of metaphysical belief is but a puny rebellion unsupported by an actual process of personal development and research, by all means, feel free to do so. However, I must inform you that in such a case you will be the deluded one. To put it far less politely - and I'm tired enough these days to even allow myself to put my manners aside for a while - you're being a patronising arsehole unworthy of any respect.
Those who pretend to be atheists, but who, when given an opportunity to learn exactly why gods not only do not physically exist, but cannot physically exist – because gods are not needed by physical entities that physically form all that physically exists – not only don’t bother to examine the provided evidence, but without having done so, choose to ignorantly degrade the very press release.
I'm slowly realising that I have far less patience to indulge someone like you than I thought when I set out to write this blog. Must be the hunger, I haven't eaten anything in hours, so you will excuse me if I speak more plainly than good manners would allow. Regardless of your commitment - which, I'm sure, some people will find admirable - I'm afraid you think far more highly of yourself than would be advisable. Assuming that you can actually teach anything to anyone in the first place is quite a risky step to take, above all if your book is stuffed with nonsense such as the sentence I have highlighted. However painful it might be to you, I have to tell you that enough material has been published already explaining why whatever deity is a logical, philosophical and physical impossibility. Quite frankly, I doubt you could actually come up with anything really revolutionary.
Why should I be concerned by all those who claim to want to know all in existence, be they scientists of any ilk, academics, or those like yourself, who presumes to possess the intellect to be anything you fancy, such as to be (as expressed on your website) simultaneously an: “Italian Atheist (Strong Atheist, to be precise [whatever that may be]), Hedonist, LaVeyan Satanist, Secular Humanist, Machiavellian, and several other things”, (with one of those “several other things”, most surely, being a self-deluded fantasist)”.
On most public forums this would be considered a first-class example of ad personam and, on any averagely-moderated board, it would earn you a ban and a good, ol' "Go fuck yourself." However, since I am a lovely Homo Sapiens Sapiens I will simply tell you that until you know me any better - and until you find out at least what Strong Atheism is - you should refrain from such juvenile, baseless comments.
After all, I am fully aware that once presented with information that challenges their delusions, such people inevitably bury their heads in sand and stick up their arses, as if in a gesture of proof that black holes physically exist. So as far as I am concerned, all humans have, by their existence, a right to exercise their decision to make choices. If you have chosen not to purchase a book that would dispel your ignorance, so be it. What you do not have the right to, is to degrade our well-meaning intentions.
Whatever little interest I might have had so far in your book - which, I admit, I might even have considered buying out of boredom or, perhaps, curiosity - you have totally annihilated with this childish rant. I hereby exercise my right to decide that you're an idiot, and I won't even consider changing my mind until you can provide conclusive evidence of this ignorance you accuse me of.
Allow me to explain this, by examining your statement: “I am personally not going to buy or read the book advertised - because I don't need it, because I don't have the time to and because I find the whole thing a bit spammy, and that has somewhat pissed me off.”

When you claim: “I am personally not going to buy or read the book advertised - because I don't need it, because I don't have the time…” that is your prerogative. It is your right to a choice. Wrong as choices on two counts, but still your right to make them.
I don't quite care what you think of my choices. Your opinion, until otherwise proven, is just one like any other.
Wrong because how can you be an atheist or a humanist when you have no knowledge of exactly why gods do not exist, or exactly why humans, on the whole, practice high-leveled inhumanity on each other, and on all other species that surround them? You pretend to know that which you actually do not. Your site had fooled my media team in accepting you to be a practitioner of logic and reason, whereas your attitude is that of a hypocrite: pretender, dissembler, deceiver, liar, pietist, sanctimonious person, phony, fraud, sham, fake.
Just when I was starting to hope you'd perhaps start making some sense, you come up with another ad personam. Again, until you can prove your claim that I "have no knowledge of exacly why gods do not exist" - or any other claim of yours, for that matter - you're worthy of as much respect as the disgusting chewing gum I inadvertently stepped on on my way back home from university this afternoon.
Oh, don’t feel too bad, Fabio, for most humans are that. For they, as you, be they scientists or teachers only pretend to know – or pretend to want to know – whereas in reality they, exactly as you, fear to know the physical truth. And so they – as you – cry out, “I don’t need it”, as if this alone shall stop the process of the physical truth from being disclosed and distributed.
The only reason why I feel bad right now is the realisation that I'm actually wasting my time answering you publicly, while I could much more simply tell my spam filter to ignore your e-mails. Once again, back your claims with evidence or shut up.
However, by declaring: “I don’t need it”, you are exposing yourself to be an arrogant ignoramus. Arrogant, because you are so blinded by your fear of knowledge that you dismiss any notion that is alien to you. Ignorant, because by having read our press release – and published it on your site – you have become aware that there is information you are unfamiliar with, so that you are no longer un-knowing of its existence. By choosing to ignore the information that has come to your awareness, you function as an ignoramus: choosing to ignore that which you know is available to you.
Wrong. By declaring that I don't need it I implied that I need not be convinced of the impossibility of a metaphysical creator or of a metaphysical reality - however oxymoronic that might be - in the first place. You, on the other hand, by taking for granted that I need to be enlightened by the precious knowledge you alone hold are proving to be a raving lunatic, just as pathetic - if not more - as whatever random Osho or Ted Haggard. You're not a guru. Most importantly, you will never be my guru, for you have nothing to teach, as your e-mail clearly shows.
• Your choice is also wrong because by stating: “I don't have the time”, means that your knowledge of physical reality is so small – as it is with ALL current humans – you don’t even realize that ‘time’ does not physically exist. (If you care to read my emailetter to your “god”, Richard Dawkins, on precisely that subject, you can view it here:
http://www.victorsenchenko.com/victorsPage1.html )
I just realised I don't even find you vaguely amusing any longer. Your captious use of the word god, your once more empty claims and your poor excuse for a faked elitism are just laughable. Your philippic against the very concept of time - running out of enemies? - is even worse. It is far too complex a concept for you to expect to be taken seriously when claiming that you hold the truth concerning it. Publish a peer-reviewed paper about your idea that time does not exist, then maybe I'll bother to read it - and, perhaps, so will Prof. Dawkins.
Now we come to the section where you’re trying to be insulting, for which you have no rights: “I find the whole thing a bit spammy, and that has somewhat pissed me off.”

I’m unaware of your qualifications as a communicator, but consider the obstacles I face:
• Disclose what everything that is physical is physically made of, and why it all physically results in physical functions…
• Disclose their delusions of ‘time’, ‘black holes’, and gods…
• Disclose who and what humans actually are, and the reason for their behaviors…
• Disclose all that humans have been claiming to want to know, including yourself, according to your own words: “Yet again I find myself racking my brains (wow, you have more that one brain?) and torturing my liver in a probably futile attempt to understand the inner functioning of the minds of many of my fellow Homo Sapiens Sapiens.”

…and do all this without any financial resources, because only those who support current human delusions – comprising of religions and flawed sciences – are financially supported…
…persevere in efforts of informing humans against all odds, while constantly having to face human lack of knowledge and their arrogant ignorance (such as yours, Fabio), because humanity has become so accustomed to their own delusions – born of fiction and lies – that they are prepared to destroy themselves, and this planet, in their attempts to defend those lies of their own making.

But instead of a thoughtful and an astute assessment from you (and you obviously think yourself astute), the best you can do is to carp an ignorant dismissal: “I find the whole thing a bit spammy…” as if inferring that I’m trying to sell you something you already possess – which you don’t. For all your scorn towards a book you’ve not examined, neither you nor any other human can second-guess its contents, for they – as I claimed and continue to – are unique and unknown to humans.
I'd like to start off with saying that racking one's brains is a commonly used expression. The use of the noun in its plural form is quite common, so you might as well live with it. However, let's get to business. I said I found your "press release" spammy and I stand by what I said. Any kind - read carefully, any damn kind - of unwanted and unrequested information, regardless of potential usefulness or interest, cluttering my mailbox will be regarded as spam. Do you wish to enlighten the world? Well, if you can afford to have your own internet domain, you can probably also afford to do some marketing. Visit forums, talk to people and try to get their attention. Spamming their mailboxes will only enrage them. Live with it. As for your inability to prove any of your claims about the alleged flaws of science, well, that's quite glaring. The only right thing you said so far is that human knowledge is not perfect, which is why we carry on scientific research. However, allow me to doubt of your power to enlighten anyone.
And then, in all your fearful ignorance, you decry: “…and that has somewhat pissed me off.”

Which part of the press release had actually “pissed you off”? Examine any part of that press release; read the book; then tell me which part of that press release had exaggerated any claim made in that press release. In actual fact, the press release was modest in relations to what you would actually learn in the book.
I thought it was pretty clear that what pissed me off is the fact that you actually sent me non-requested info. That's what spam is. Again, I won't read your book. I don't have the time to and I am not interested. Open a blog to explain where you come from, and then I might consider listening to what you have to say. I've had enough of self-proclaimed gurus, I have rejected religion for a reason.
But I actually know exactly why you had felt pissed off. Your dismissive, angry, and dejected attitude is actually explained in the book, as is all other human behavior. It is only by fully understanding humans that I subtitled the book: “What humans fear to know: the physical truth of everything in existence, including themselves”. Were you to read the book, you would fully understand the causes for your unhappiness, as you would understand why I “pissed you off”.
You talk exactly like a self-proclaimed messiah, which is the thing this world needs least. If you really cared for humanity, you'd sell your computer and never make a single public statement any more. Something tells me you won't heed my counsel, though. Just for the record, however, you are once more taking for granted far too many things, the most important of which is my alleged unhappiness and fear of the physical reality. First of all, right now you are the only cause of my temporary sadness. The idea that a raving idiot like you is actually allowed to live freely on this planet and even dispose of an internet connection is, to be fairly honest, quite scary and terribly depressing. Secondly, the "price" I paid when I became an atheist was the rejection of any kind of crutch-like, metaphysical belief. If there is one thing you simply cannot say about me is that I fear the bare, naked and, to some, cruel physical reality. I embraced it fully as soon as I stepped out of the intellectual slumber of my childhood and it has never been cause of sadness to me.
Furthermore, were you to read the book, you would learn of the reason you behaved as most humans: bidding, imploring, or requesting others to do your responsive duties: “I simply figured that there might be someone even remotely interested in it - or in the challenge mentioned towards the end of the mail.” In other words, you are ‘passing the buck’ onto someone else to do your work for you. And by that you disclose yourself to be an intellectual coward. So much like a human.
This does not deserve an answer. Personal, baseless attacks generally don't.
Well, go on, Fabio, you intellectual coward; prove me wrong:
1. Publish this emailetter on your site, and then:
Done.
2. Read the book and refute that which I disclose. Yes, indeed, try and obtain that reward I fearlessly offer to all humans on this planet. But ponder this, Fabio: have you ever come across such daring challenge to all humanity? No you haven’t. There is a reason for that: I don’t just believe what I claim; I know it! No wonder you, as all others, are so fearful: my revelations bust all of your delusions, be you a theist or an atheist, for all of you are no more than deluded believers.

Sincerely yours,
Victor Senchenko
Again, I won't read your book unless you give me a real - not even a good one, I'll content myself with a terrible one, as long as it is real - reason to do it. To answer your question, I see absolutely no challenge in anything you have written so far. And I have no problem doubting that you are genuiley convinced of what you go around passing off as new, revolutionary truths. All the gurus in human history have been. As for their being actually right...well, you can answer that for yourself.

You know, you should never have dared me to post this letter on my blog. Just hope that no one will ever bother to read my very personal corner of the web, or you'll see your readership seriously shrunken.

4 comments:

Bacchus Veritas said...

Wow, you had more patience than most people would and they are still attacking you for it! Crazy. I generally just tell them that even if they could convince me that a god exists, then it certainly and under no circumstance, be the Christian god they are pushing. They don't want you to just believe in god, but their god. So sad.

Fabio said...

Oh no, the funny thing is that they actually wanted to convince me that there is none, as if I actually need convincing or some precious knowledge they only can provide. :D I mostly hate preachers, regardless of their religious confession or lack thereof.

BillyWarhol said...

Smart Post - I was thrilled + somewhat shocked to see my Blog had been already added to the Atheist BlogRoll*

Just going thru them now + Mano Mano there are some Great Atheist Blogs out there like a Universe I didn't even realize Existed!!

Interesting + Funny ones too*

Cheers! Billy ;)) Peace*

BillyWarhol said...

oh my god - not to be a patronizing Ahole but i read the post - i have the attention span of a gnat - but wow*

I gotta see what the Book is now*

I just finished Dawkins god Delusion + last year Hitchens god is not Great: how Religion Poisons Everything - both Brilliant reads with some good Zingers!!

;))